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שמשון חיים's avatar

Loved reading this. I think there's a lot going on in the Commedia that has to do with things other than a theology of reward and punishment - arguably thats only the setting for a lot of really evocative and beautiful thinking about life and humanity. I wonder what we lose by assuming that a frum humanities education needs to always be put into direct conversation with things directly discussed in the Jewish canon - there's a lot of richness that doesn't have a direct easy comparitive parallel. Is all we're interested in within the 'Great Works' canon the points of comparison?

(As it happens, though this is another comparison thing - I know theres a lot of thinking thats been done on the unique use of allegory in Dante's poem - how he is writing about real people (and very much so is telling a particular story about those people) and simultaneously allowing them to stand in for bigger ideas. I've wondered if this could be a useful resource for informing how we think about the allegorical interpretation of Biblical/Rabbinic stories, which always assume the real existence of their characters at the least. I'm sadly far from a Dante expert but could be cool for someone to explore!)

Zvi Weiss's avatar

I believe that -- for most Jews -- the notion of Hell is simply "cleaning the soul". I think that R. Avigdor Miller ZT"L compares it to scrubbing out "stains" in the Soul. This would appear to be very different from the "punishments" described by Dante.

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